Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/12/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  HB 369 - STATE LEASES & LEASE-PURCHASE FINANCING                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 369 for discussion.  He announced a                 
  representative of the sponsor was not present to testify,                    
  but DUGAN PETTY was present.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 201                                                                   
                                                                               
  DUGAN PETTY, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF GENERAL SERVICES,                         
  DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION (DOA), addressed HB 369.  He                    
  stated the DOA has been in support of the companion bill, SB
  247 in the Senate, after some minor amendments.  He directed                 
  the committee to section 6 & 7 of HB 369, which clarifies                    
  the relationship of current law between leasing and lease-                   
  financing.  He stated HB 369 would create two sections in AS                 
  36.30, one dealing with the lease of real property, and the                  
  other dealing with lease-financing of real property.  He                     
  emphasized AS 36.30 was beginning to get fairly confusing in                 
  current law.                                                                 
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY recommended amendments to section 7 of HB 369,                     
  which have been made in SB 247.  He recommended on page 6,                   
  line 16 which states "when evaluating proposals to acquire                   
  property under lease-purchase," that the term "real" be                      
  inserted before "property."  He recommended the same                         
  amendment on page 6, line 22.  On page 7, line 9, he                         
  recommended inserting, after the word "agreement," "to                       
  acquire real property."  Under the current definition of                     
  lease-purchase or lease-financing in AS 36.30, transactions                  
  for copier leases which cost between $100-$1,700 a month are                 
  included.  The DOA has approximately 1,000 of these copier                   
  agreements by the agencies.  He did not believe it was the                   
  intent of HB 369 to include those sorts of transactions                      
  approved by law.  HB 369 was intended to focus on real                       
  property.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 266                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated HB 369 would be involved with items                    
  such as computers, copy machines, and road maintenance                       
  equipment.  He asked if there is not already a $1 million                    
  cap on lease-purchase agreements.  He thought HB 369 would                   
  not apply to a purchase of less than $1 million.                             
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY responded the $1 million cap affects the lease                     
  side.  He pointed out; however, with the current form of HB
  369 there is no cap whatsoever.  Under section 7, any lease-                 
  purchase transaction regardless of dollar amount would                       
  require approval by the legislature.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 282                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the state would not require                         
  legislative approval to lease-purchase a $1.5 million                        
  excavator.                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY replied, as HB 369 is written, an approval would                   
  be required from the legislature to acquire a $1.5 million                   
  excavator or a $100 copier contract applied to the                           
  definition of lease-purchase or lease agreement.                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY believed a dollar cap might be more effective                 
  than a blanket approval.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 297                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG asked if the dollar cap did not                        
  already exist.                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY replied yes, for lease-financing with a cap of $1                  
  million a year, and $10 million over the term of the lease.                  
                                                                               
  Number 304                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG inquired if HB 369 was termed the                      
  "Wildwood Bill."                                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY answered that terminology for HB 369 is in                    
  the sponsor statement by RANDY WELKER.  He quoted, "This                     
  legislation has been responsible for ongoing review and                      
  concern over lease-purchases of the Wildwood Correction                      
  Center, and the Court Plaza Building."  He asked if MR.                      
  PETTY had his proposed amendment in writing.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 319                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY did not, but he marked on his copy of the HB 369.                  
                                                                               
  Number 339                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the recommended amendments were as                  
  follows:  Page 6, line 16, shall read, "when evaluating                      
  proposals to acquire real property..."; page 7, line 9,                      
  shall read, "may not enter into lease-purchase agreement to                  
  acquire real property..."                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 347                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. PETTY added page 6, line 22, shall read, "whether                        
  acquisition of the real property by lease-purchase                           
  agreement..."                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 350                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS moved to adopt the requested                         
  amendments to HB 369.                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 353                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY recognized the motion and asked the committee                 
  secretary to call the roll.                                                  
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      VEZEY, KOTT, G. DAVIS, SANDERS, OLBERG                        
  ABSENT:        ULMER, B. DAVIS                                               
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY announced the requested amendments were                       
  adopted to HB 369 and a committee substitute will be drawn                   
  up to reflect them.                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 362                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS moved to pass CSHB 369 from                          
  committee with individual recommendations and attached                       
  fiscal notes.                                                                
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY recognized the motion and asked the committee                 
  secretary to call the roll.                                                  
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      VEZEY, KOTT, G. DAVIS, SANDERS, OLBERG.                       
  ABSENT:        ULMER, B. DAVIS                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY announced CSHB 369 passed from the House                      
  State Affairs committee.                                                     
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY adjourned the meeting at 9:57 a.m.                            

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